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		<title>Dan Quinn Made An Epic Postseason Blunder Not Going For 2</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2018 19:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dan Quinn and the Atlanta Falcons pulled off a big upset on Wild Card weekend, winning 26-13 in Los Angeles against the heavily favored Rams. The win was driven in large part by special teams: Atlanta picked up 40 yards of field position on punts, Falcons kicker Matt Bryant was 4/4 on field goals, including [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/QuinDa0.htm" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Dan Quinn</a> and the Atlanta Falcons pulled off a big upset on Wild Card weekend, winning 26-13 in Los Angeles against the heavily favored Rams. The win was driven in large part by <a href="http://pfref.com/pi/share/Dl8f3" target="_blank" rel="noopener">special teams</a>: Atlanta picked up <a href="http://pfref.com/pi/share/hWV9K" target="_blank" rel="noopener">40 yards of field position on punts</a>, Falcons kicker <a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/bryanmat01.htm">Matt Bryant</a> was 4/4 on field goals, including from 51 and 54 yards away, and the Rams lost <em>two</em> fumbles on special teams, with one muff and one fumble by Pro Bowler <a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/C/CoopPh00.htm">Pharoh Cooper</a>.</p>
<p>Special teams was the story of the game, but the narrative nearly shifted to a monumental mistake by Quinn.  With just under 6 minutes left in the game, the Falcons scored a touchdown to take a 25-13 lead.  Up by 12 with 5:54 remaining, going for 2 is the obvious choice. The difference between a 12-point lead and a 13-point lead with 6 minutes left isn&#8217;t much; meanwhile, the difference between a 13-point lead and a 14-point lead is huge.  The Rams were very unlikely to have <em>three</em> possessions left and to tie the game with a touchdown and two field goals, but a Los Angeles touchdown, followed by a stop, followed by another Rams TD was certainly on the table.  That would win the game if the Rams were down 12 or 13, but only force overtime if the Rams were down by 14.</p>
<p>Yet, remarkably, Quinn chose to kick the extra point.  Since the start of the 2012 season, there had been <a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/play_finder.cgi?request=1&amp;match=summary_all&amp;year_min=2012&amp;year_max=2017&amp;game_type=E&amp;game_num_min=0&amp;game_num_max=99&amp;week_num_min=0&amp;week_num_max=99&amp;quarter%5B%5D=4&amp;tr_gtlt=lt&amp;minutes=7&amp;seconds=0&amp;down%5B%5D=0&amp;down%5B%5D=1&amp;down%5B%5D=2&amp;down%5B%5D=3&amp;down%5B%5D=4&amp;yg_gtlt=gt&amp;field_pos_min_field=team&amp;field_pos_max_field=team&amp;end_field_pos_min_field=team&amp;end_field_pos_max_field=team&amp;type%5B%5D=XP&amp;type%5B%5D=2PCR&amp;type%5B%5D=2PCP&amp;no_play=N&amp;turnover_type%5B%5D=interception&amp;turnover_type%5B%5D=fumble&amp;score_type%5B%5D=touchdown&amp;score_type%5B%5D=field_goal&amp;score_type%5B%5D=safety&amp;margin_min=12&amp;margin_max=12&amp;rush_direction%5B%5D=LE&amp;rush_direction%5B%5D=LT&amp;rush_direction%5B%5D=LG&amp;rush_direction%5B%5D=M&amp;rush_direction%5B%5D=RG&amp;rush_direction%5B%5D=RT&amp;rush_direction%5B%5D=RE&amp;pass_location%5B%5D=SL&amp;pass_location%5B%5D=SM&amp;pass_location%5B%5D=SR&amp;pass_location%5B%5D=DL&amp;pass_location%5B%5D=DM&amp;pass_location%5B%5D=DR&amp;order_by=yards" target="_blank" rel="noopener">12 instances</a> where a team scored a touchdown to take a 12-point lead with less than 7 minutes left in the game.  Even overly conservative coaches mostly got this right: they went for two in 9 of 12 cases.</p>
<p>The three exceptions were notable:</p>
<p>In <a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201609150buf.htm" target="_blank" rel="noopener">week 2 of the 2016 season</a>, the Jets took a 36-24 lead over the Bills with just over four minutes remaining.  I tweeted that the Jets needed to <a href="https://twitter.com/fbgchase/status/776620309474643972" target="_blank" rel="noopener">go for 2 after scoring</a>, was <a href="https://twitter.com/fbgchase/status/776620491926831105" target="_blank" rel="noopener">incredulous</a> after they did not, and then <a href="https://twitter.com/fbgchase/status/776621729120595968" target="_blank" rel="noopener">hoped the Jets media</a> would ask Bowles about it after the game. It turns out that they did, and Bowles <a href="http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2016/09/jets_todd_bowles_says_he_screwed_up_by_not_attempt.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener">admitted making a mistake</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>Bowles on Friday said he &#8220;should&#8217;ve&#8221; gone for two in this spot. Why didn&#8217;t he?</p>
<p>&#8220;I was occupied doing something with the defense,&#8221; he said. &#8220;When I turned around and looked at it, that was my bust. I&#8217;ll be better going forward.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Another example came in 2013, when (at the time) everyone&#8217;s favorite coach, <a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/PagaCh0.htm" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Chuck Pagan</a>o, pulled off a big upset but made this same mistake.  I wrote about <a href="http://www.footballperspective.com/chuck-pagano-went-for-1-up-12-with-under-five-minutes-remaining/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">that at the time, too</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>I can’t believe I’m writing this article. Everyone loves <a href="http://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/PagaCh0.htm" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Chuck Pagano</a>, but he made a pretty embarrassing blunder at the end of the <a href="http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201309220sfo.htm" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Colts upset win</a> in San Francisco on Sunday. The Colts led 13-7 when <a href="http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/L/LuckAn00.htm?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-www.footballperspective.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Andrew Luck</a> scrambled for a six yard touchdown on 3rd-and-3 with just over four minutes left in the fourth quarter. Incredibly, Pagano then chose to kick the extra point, which my buddy and Colts fan Nate Dunlevy <a href="https://twitter.com/NateDunlevy/status/381914616080527360" target="_blank" rel="noopener">identified immediately</a> as a terrible decision.</p>
<p>I wasn’t going to write a post about that decision, because, ya know, what could be more obvious than going for two when up by 12 points with just over four minutes left in the game? I mean, <a href="http://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/GarrJa0.htm" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Jason Garrett</a> got this right <a href="http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201309080dal.htm" target="_blank" rel="noopener">in the season opener</a>. Being up by 14 points means two touchdowns doesn’t beat you, while there is almost no difference between being up 12 or being up 13 points.</p></blockquote>
<p>The final example involved the Browns in a 37-24 win over Buffalo.  Cleveland recorded a <a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201310030cle.htm" target="_blank" rel="noopener">pick six</a> with just under two minutes left to take a 36-24 lead.  Maybe <a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/ChudRo0.htm">Rob Chudzinski</a> was so surprised by the score that he simply made a brainfart the way Bowles did.  In some ways, the mistake was minimized, because the odds of the other team scoring two touchdowns in less than two minutes are much lower than two touchdowns in six minutes.  On the other hand, there&#8217;s literally no justification at all for not going for two in that case, because the opponent can&#8217;t have three possessions.<span id="more-36628"></span></p>
<p>But in 9 of the 12 cases, the scoring team wisely chose to go for 2, including the <a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201602070den.htm" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Broncos in the Super Bowl over Carolina</a>.  That&#8217;s because this is <em>such an easy decision to make</em>, which is why Quinn&#8217;s decision was baffling.  It&#8217;s probably not wise to analyze this using win probability, because the Falcons were overwhelming favorites to win regardless of what he did. But teams, even Atlanta, can lose a playoff game despite being overwhelming favorites late in the game. What you really need to analyze is the risk vs. the reward.</p>
<p>If the Rams don&#8217;t score two touchdowns, none of this matters.  But if Los Angeles does, kicking the extra point only makes sense in one case: If the Falcons make the extra point <em>and</em> the Rams miss one of two extra points, which leads to overtime <em>and</em> the Falcons would have missed the two point conversion (had the Rams made the 2-point try, and the Rams missed the second extra point, it would likely lead to an Atlanta win in regulation). The other time it makes sense is if the Rams score a TD and kick two FGs, which leads to overtime rather than a loss in regulation.</p>
<p>That has to be balanced against &#8230; the Rams not missing an extra point.  Quinn may or may not admit it, but he made a really amateur coaching mistake, but fortunately for him, it didn&#8217;t come back to haunt his Falcons.</p>
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		<title>538: Steelers, Seahawks, Stir Up The &#8220;Go For 2&#8221; Debate</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2016 22:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Today at 538: the Steelers and Seahawks had some interesting two-point conversion decisions in week ten. According to ESPN Stats &#38; Information Group, there have been 1,045 two-point conversion attempts since 2001, with teams converting 501 of those tries. That’s a 47.9 percent conversion rate; given that a successful attempt yields 2 points, that means [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today at <a href="http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/more-nfl-teams-are-going-for-two-just-as-they-should-be/" target="_blank">538</a>: the Steelers and Seahawks had some interesting two-point conversion decisions in week ten.</p>
<blockquote><p>According to ESPN Stats &amp; Information Group, there have been 1,045 two-point conversion attempts since 2001, with teams converting 501 of those tries. That’s a 47.9 percent conversion rate; given that a successful attempt yields 2 points, that means the expected value from an average 2-point try is 0.96 points.</p>
<p>Interestingly, that’s almost exactly what the expected value is from an extra point these days. Since the NFL moved extra-point kicks back to the <a href="http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000493347/article/nfl-moves-extra-point-to-15yard-line-for-2015-season">15-yard line</a> last season, teams have a 94.4 percent success rate, which means that an extra point has an expected value of between 0.94 and 0.95 points.</p>
<p>This means that, all else being equal, the average team should be indifferent between going for two or kicking an extra point. Unless the game situation (i.e., late in the second half) or team composition (e.g., a bad kicker, or an offense or an opposing defense that is very good or very bad) changes the odds considerably, the <i>decision</i> to go for two or kick an extra point shouldn’t be controversial. In the long run, things will even out, because the expected value to the offense is essentially the same in both cases.</p>
<p>That’s the <i>long run</i>. In the short run, there will be ugly outcomes. And we saw two of those play out this weekend.</p></blockquote>
<p>You can read the full article <a href="http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/more-nfl-teams-are-going-for-two-just-as-they-should-be/" target="_blank">here</a>.</p>
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