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	Comments on: O.J. Howard and Myles Garrett Ran The Top Weight-Adjusted 40s At 2017 Combine	</title>
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		By: Chase		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Here is a charge showing weight on the X-Axis, and weight adjusted 40 time (the difference column) relative to average.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a charge showing weight on the X-Axis, and weight adjusted 40 time (the difference column) relative to average.</p>
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		By: James		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.footballperspective.com/o-j-howard-and-myles-garrett-ran-the-top-weight-adjusted-40s-at-2017-combine/#comment-324467&quot;&gt;Andrew Carrier&lt;/a&gt;.

I get your point, but that problem should be (largely) resolved by the regression. If heavier players are able to run as fast as lighter players, then there&#039;d be no relationship between weight and speed and no one would get a boost. However, the regression proves that there *is* a relationship, so we should credit the fast and heavy players accordingly.

Now could you argue that it&#039;s easier to decrease your time by &quot;10 pounds&quot; when you weigh 250 compared to 190? Probably! But as Jim Zorns said, players that are both heavier *and* faster are more valuable! And to that point I think the bigger issue is this metric is more useful for some positions than others.

For instance, I don&#039;t know how much I care about a WR&#039;s weight adjusted 40. I think DeSean Jackson&#039;s pure speed is more valuable than if he were both 10 pounds heavier and slower. But I do think it&#039;s telling for players that rely on both size and speed, notably DEs, TEs, and RBs. That&#039;s presuming weight is a good proxy for their abilities in the run game, speed for the passing game, and weight adjusted 40s a good proxy for both.

I think this metric may be best used to help put the elite prospects in context - if you think someone is great *and* they test well in this metric, you&#039;re probably right (see Donald, Clowney, Elliott, Beasley, CJ2k, etc) but it isn&#039;t reliable on its own.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="http://www.footballperspective.com/o-j-howard-and-myles-garrett-ran-the-top-weight-adjusted-40s-at-2017-combine/#comment-324467">Andrew Carrier</a>.</p>
<p>I get your point, but that problem should be (largely) resolved by the regression. If heavier players are able to run as fast as lighter players, then there&#8217;d be no relationship between weight and speed and no one would get a boost. However, the regression proves that there *is* a relationship, so we should credit the fast and heavy players accordingly.</p>
<p>Now could you argue that it&#8217;s easier to decrease your time by &#8220;10 pounds&#8221; when you weigh 250 compared to 190? Probably! But as Jim Zorns said, players that are both heavier *and* faster are more valuable! And to that point I think the bigger issue is this metric is more useful for some positions than others.</p>
<p>For instance, I don&#8217;t know how much I care about a WR&#8217;s weight adjusted 40. I think DeSean Jackson&#8217;s pure speed is more valuable than if he were both 10 pounds heavier and slower. But I do think it&#8217;s telling for players that rely on both size and speed, notably DEs, TEs, and RBs. That&#8217;s presuming weight is a good proxy for their abilities in the run game, speed for the passing game, and weight adjusted 40s a good proxy for both.</p>
<p>I think this metric may be best used to help put the elite prospects in context &#8211; if you think someone is great *and* they test well in this metric, you&#8217;re probably right (see Donald, Clowney, Elliott, Beasley, CJ2k, etc) but it isn&#8217;t reliable on its own.</p>
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