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		By: Remoat		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Remoat]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know if the West Coast label is accurate for the 2010 and 2011 Oakland Raiders. The passing game under Hue Jackson tended to look more vertical, especially in 2011 when Al Saunders became the OC.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if the West Coast label is accurate for the 2010 and 2011 Oakland Raiders. The passing game under Hue Jackson tended to look more vertical, especially in 2011 when Al Saunders became the OC.</p>
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		By: Michael Schuttke		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Schuttke]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Where this becomes interesting is in the multiplicity of today&#039;s schemes. For example, how does one classify the Ravens defense? According to personnel reports submitted to the league on lineups, they are a &quot;3-4&quot; team. However, watch Terrell Suggs line up with his hand down the majority of the time and Haloti Ngata moving frequently between a 0-tech, 1-tech and 5-tech position and I think it becomes clear that this team is more functionally a 4-man line. Likewise, Pete Carroll has been famously quoted for his &quot;running a 4-3 scheme with 3-4 personnel&quot; (one could argue that it&#039;s vice versa as well there) and what Belichick is doing with Wilfork being the two-gap player in a front that can half of it play what is known more to be 4-3 principles (i.e. one-gap) and the other be 3-4 (i.e. two-gap) makes them difficult to classify. So that is my question here (without having looked at the Google doc yet so forgive me if this is explained in looking at it) Chase; how do we classify these sorts of teams in the modern era that are so multiple, both on offense (which I did not touch on at all but how ubiquitous terms like West Coast offense have become, etc. almost all seminal offenses) and defense?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where this becomes interesting is in the multiplicity of today&#8217;s schemes. For example, how does one classify the Ravens defense? According to personnel reports submitted to the league on lineups, they are a &#8220;3-4&#8221; team. However, watch Terrell Suggs line up with his hand down the majority of the time and Haloti Ngata moving frequently between a 0-tech, 1-tech and 5-tech position and I think it becomes clear that this team is more functionally a 4-man line. Likewise, Pete Carroll has been famously quoted for his &#8220;running a 4-3 scheme with 3-4 personnel&#8221; (one could argue that it&#8217;s vice versa as well there) and what Belichick is doing with Wilfork being the two-gap player in a front that can half of it play what is known more to be 4-3 principles (i.e. one-gap) and the other be 3-4 (i.e. two-gap) makes them difficult to classify. So that is my question here (without having looked at the Google doc yet so forgive me if this is explained in looking at it) Chase; how do we classify these sorts of teams in the modern era that are so multiple, both on offense (which I did not touch on at all but how ubiquitous terms like West Coast offense have become, etc. almost all seminal offenses) and defense?</p>
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