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	Comments on: Brad Oremland: Quarterback Total Statistical Production — 2017 Update	</title>
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		By: Jamey Bankert		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[I read thru this on the previous page on this subject and I like some of your approach but I think it could stand to be adjusted to help expose what the most important goal of a QBs job is and reward it&#039;s accomplishment rather than assign a value to how it is accomplished. Going with what you have now you results in +1/ yard gained passing and -1 /yard lost due to a sack resulting in the 1/yard of gain from scrimmage v but later you sign a value of only .5 / yard gained rushing indicating a difference in the value of how it benefits the team depending on how it was gained. Reading your prior explanation I believe this was an attempt to limit the negative impact of  riding yardage to taking a knee. That&#039;s reasonable but also limits giving the proper value to rushing qb who may have a large impact on total yards with a few good runs who will only be rewarded with 50% credit of what he actually accomplished. Easiest solution is remove the results of plays like taking a knee before half showing as a rush attempt of -3 yards by removing those numbers from the totals before putting them in the equation. But I realize that may be time consuming on a large scale and you seem to have designed this to be used with stats straight from the final box score and not worrying about how to account for stats that are included in the totals that in context should not apply. It&#039;s also puzzling that while you do reward evenly per td scored regardless of by pass or by catch that you also assume that an int has double the harmful impact that scoring a td is positive for the team but yet value a fumble as harmful to a team as the same amount of good a td is worth. 2 issues I have with that is this assumes every turnover results in a loss of points to the team as if every possession must end in either td or turnover. This is false at times an int has the same result as punting does and I think a fumble should have either the same or higher of a negative impact as an int does as a fumble may often result in the other team gaining possession behind your previous line of scrimmage and therefore closer to their end zone and scoring vs an int, which depending on how far it the pass was thrown and where it was caught and how far it was returned it may be a loss of 40-50 yard from where they&#039;d have recovered A fumble most times. This system could also allow garbage time stats or intentional turnovers to impact the results with no effect on the outcome of the game and worth the risk of successful. Picturing a hail Mary  after a team gets a quick turnover and they either end incomplete which is not good or it gets caught and tabled at the 1. Glad I don&#039;t have to let him or lol]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read thru this on the previous page on this subject and I like some of your approach but I think it could stand to be adjusted to help expose what the most important goal of a QBs job is and reward it&#8217;s accomplishment rather than assign a value to how it is accomplished. Going with what you have now you results in +1/ yard gained passing and -1 /yard lost due to a sack resulting in the 1/yard of gain from scrimmage v but later you sign a value of only .5 / yard gained rushing indicating a difference in the value of how it benefits the team depending on how it was gained. Reading your prior explanation I believe this was an attempt to limit the negative impact of  riding yardage to taking a knee. That&#8217;s reasonable but also limits giving the proper value to rushing qb who may have a large impact on total yards with a few good runs who will only be rewarded with 50% credit of what he actually accomplished. Easiest solution is remove the results of plays like taking a knee before half showing as a rush attempt of -3 yards by removing those numbers from the totals before putting them in the equation. But I realize that may be time consuming on a large scale and you seem to have designed this to be used with stats straight from the final box score and not worrying about how to account for stats that are included in the totals that in context should not apply. It&#8217;s also puzzling that while you do reward evenly per td scored regardless of by pass or by catch that you also assume that an int has double the harmful impact that scoring a td is positive for the team but yet value a fumble as harmful to a team as the same amount of good a td is worth. 2 issues I have with that is this assumes every turnover results in a loss of points to the team as if every possession must end in either td or turnover. This is false at times an int has the same result as punting does and I think a fumble should have either the same or higher of a negative impact as an int does as a fumble may often result in the other team gaining possession behind your previous line of scrimmage and therefore closer to their end zone and scoring vs an int, which depending on how far it the pass was thrown and where it was caught and how far it was returned it may be a loss of 40-50 yard from where they&#8217;d have recovered A fumble most times. This system could also allow garbage time stats or intentional turnovers to impact the results with no effect on the outcome of the game and worth the risk of successful. Picturing a hail Mary  after a team gets a quick turnover and they either end incomplete which is not good or it gets caught and tabled at the 1. Glad I don&#8217;t have to let him or lol</p>
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		By: sacramento gold miners		</title>
		<link>http://www.footballperspective.com/brad-oremland-quarterback-total-statistical-production-2017-update/#comment-323709</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Mar 2017 12:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.footballperspective.com/brad-oremland-quarterback-total-statistical-production-2017-update/#comment-323678&quot;&gt;Richie&lt;/a&gt;.

Montana had three other memorable games with the Chiefs, and I think he&#039;s the only KC QB outside of Dawson to lead them to a conference title game. In 1993, Montana came back to beat the Steelers in the playoffs. In 1994, he beat the eventual World Champion Niners in the regular season, and later upset the Oilers at Houston. Even in a diminished capacity without the offensive weapons in San Francisco, Montana could still be great.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="http://www.footballperspective.com/brad-oremland-quarterback-total-statistical-production-2017-update/#comment-323678">Richie</a>.</p>
<p>Montana had three other memorable games with the Chiefs, and I think he&#8217;s the only KC QB outside of Dawson to lead them to a conference title game. In 1993, Montana came back to beat the Steelers in the playoffs. In 1994, he beat the eventual World Champion Niners in the regular season, and later upset the Oilers at Houston. Even in a diminished capacity without the offensive weapons in San Francisco, Montana could still be great.</p>
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