Comments on: After 17 Head-to-Head Matchups, a Brady/Manning Statistical Analysis http://www.footballperspective.com/after-17-head-to-head-matchups-a-bradymanning-statistical-analysis/ NFL History and Stats Sat, 20 Feb 2016 02:41:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.0.7 By: Donkey Kong http://www.footballperspective.com/after-17-head-to-head-matchups-a-bradymanning-statistical-analysis/#comment-314203 Sat, 20 Feb 2016 02:41:00 +0000 http://www.footballperspective.com/?p=28084#comment-314203 In reply to Andrew Healy.

That 2006 Pats squad had the 3rd best DVOA(26.3%) in the league that year. Offense was 4th, Defense was 7th, ST was 8th.

2006 Colts were 7th in DVOA(16.3%). Offense was 1st, Defense was 25th, ST was 25th.

I think 2006 Manning(51.3% DVOA, 2nd in 06 was Brees at 25.6% DVOA) would have done just fine on that 06 Pats squad. And if the D + ST combined to give him +8.69 vs the Jets, and +9.95 against the Chargers, I think odds are he would have had the Pats in the same AFC Title game.

Also I think the fact that Brady threw what could have been a game deciding INT only to have the ball fumbled back to him vs the Chargers, and then threw the game losing INT to the Colts the next game, weakens your thought experiment.

I think the Pats currently also have more talent now than you are giving them credit for. They were smoking defenses until injuries piled up this year. That line isn’t very good though, no doubt.

You mention Lebron, remember when he left CLE and they collapsed? Surely I don’t need to remind you what happened the years that Brady and Manning missed?

Anyways, I actually agree with you that a toss up is about how I view Manning v Brady. I just didn’t agree with your thoughts on the 06 season. Btw, I generally enjoy reading your posts and viewpoints so keep up the good work Mr. Healy.

]]> By: Andrew Healy http://www.footballperspective.com/after-17-head-to-head-matchups-a-bradymanning-statistical-analysis/#comment-313441 Mon, 01 Feb 2016 22:24:00 +0000 http://www.footballperspective.com/?p=28084#comment-313441 I’ve mostly argued for Manning for a long time, but I do think toss-up sounds about dead right. The argument about the opposing defenses is important, but so is the surrounding talent on offense. Brady’s surrounding talent was mediocre at best those first six years. Not sure it’s all that great now, either, even with Gronkowski. And certainly the line (which people forget was also pretty strongly beaten against Seattle last year) is currently terrible.

I think a lot about the 2006 AFCC. Do we think Manning would have carried Jabar Gaffney, Reche Caldwell, and Ben Watson to the brink of the Super Bowl? My answer is a shaky yes. But it’s an interesting thought experiment to consider how Brady would be considered if he had completed the trick that year. Kind of like if LeBron had won the title with the dreck he had around him last year, although on a much smaller scale.

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